![]() 09/27/2013 at 16:09 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
So good.
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Ironic that Ford does this.
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Why is this?
*eats popcorn*
![]() 09/27/2013 at 16:23 |
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"The Thunderbird is back"
"The Mustang is back"
"The Taurus is back"
etc.
![]() 09/27/2013 at 16:35 |
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Mustang never left.
Taurus never really left, was always being spun off to different names. Nor does anyone really give a damn about a Taurus either way.
Thunderbird, you win. And the latest iteration was a joke.
![]() 09/27/2013 at 16:43 |
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For the Mustang I meant designwise. Everyone (Ford included) celebrated "the return of a legend" for a car that looked less fresh than the 2004 model.
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That, too. Although in their defence, it was Motor Trend who started it.
![]() 09/27/2013 at 16:59 |
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The same how they were excited for the Foxbody, and the SN95 chassis. It was exciting because it was an entirely new chassis, not just an evolution in the outer shell.
But the main thing is that even if nothing changed between 94-04 they still sold cars and they still kept fighting through and progressing the design. Even taking things further and pushing the envelope with the 2000 Cobra R and the 03-04 Cobras.
Whereas Chevy fell back to the Corvette and Chrysler relied on all the subsidiaries to pull them through.
![]() 09/27/2013 at 17:13 |
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I'd say that
a lot
changed between 1994 and 2004. And as you said, SVT went really hard on the post-facelift fourth generation. I quite like both the 5.4R and the Terminator. But from then on...I think the GT500's lack of IRS (when they had said the 5th gen SVT Mustang would have IRS) was the most disappointing part of it. That and the inflated, "upmarket" price tag.
Chrysler was incredibly weak at the time, something that has changed a lot, and GM suffered from terrible management and product decisions, something that hasn't changed at all.
![]() 09/27/2013 at 17:27 |
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I have to agree on the GT500. But, something that few people know is that the IRS in the 03-04 Cobra and previous Cobras were not without fault. They were weak and known to break either due to wheel hop when under power or from just the additional power in general. I've snapped a half-shaft and blew the entire differential out of its housing on two separate occasions.
So I feel that due to the weight, power, and everything that they were afraid of making the same mistake twice on the Shelby as they had done with the Cobras. But, it desperately needs it. As do the base GTs as well.
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this isn't talking about car models, its talking about GM and Chrysler taking the bail out loans to revamp their companies. For instance, anything pre 08 is "old GM" and after is "new GM". While GM and Chrysler underwent serious changes since 08 and became entirely new companies, Ford was already cutting back way back in 05 and "never really left".
![]() 09/28/2013 at 10:35 |
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I am aware of those issues. Nonetheless it seems that SVT decided to make the cheap decision and instead of further ironing out the rear end's flaws, they just went back to where it was.
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Which is the typical American way.
If it at first you don't succeed, then well.....I suppose we can just....try something else.